Monday, June 18, 2007

ISM DHANBAD FAQ

FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS on ISM DHANBAD



DISCLAIMER:
This FAQ is based on the queries i received from prospective students during 2007 admissions.
The answers are based on personal observations and thus may differ from ISM's opinion.







1.What kind of place is dhanbad??

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Most of us get apprehensive on hearing the name of bihar and jharkhand..
but this is just due to our baseless assumptions.

THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEM IN LIVING IN DHANBAD..

Dhanbad is a perfectly safe place to live in...There are no kidnappings waiting to happen...

T
here are absolutely no EXTRA problems.........other then what all normal cities face..
The law n order is well maintained..

And especially, there is absolutely no problem in and around ism campus....u can roam freely 24 hrs in ism campus and even in dhanbad..

Me and my friends have been out of the campus @ 3-4 A.M. many a times...and haven’t encountered any problems yet.

So rest assured, u can live safely and happily in dhanbad and complete your college life ALIVE!!!...



2.ISM dhanbad what kind of college is it??

Why cant it become IIT??

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INDIAN SCHOOL OF MINES,DHANBAD IS ONE OF THE OLDEST INSTITUTIONS TO HAVE EXISTED IN INDIA,SETUP ON THE LINES OF ROYAL SCHOOL OF MINES, ENGLAND.

It was established in 1926.


BUT THE FACT of which very few are aware is that.........
IN THE YEAR 2000 ISM AND ROORKEE UNIV. WERE GIVEN THE STATUS OF AN IIT....ROORKEE ACCEPTED IT while "ISM REJECTED THE OFFER"....
this happened due to the pressure of the STRONG ISM ALUMNI.......

who were of the view that "changing the name of one's ALMA MATER is equivalent to changing the name of ONE'S MOTHER"...
and this feeling was conveyed to the authorities at that time...in almost the same format....

The great reason (besides the emotional one) was THE FACT THAT ISM IS A PIONEER INSTITUTE WHICH HAS EXISTED SINCE NOTHING CALLED IITs EXISTED ......
IT IS THE BEST SCHOOL IN ASIA FOR EARTH SCIENCES..

And thus considering This AWESOME REPUTATION at least in Earth Sciences, the idea of changing name was scrapped at that time.


At present nine different B Tech Branches, various dual degree courses, MBA and many M Tech & M.Sc Courses are offered here.


ISM’s name was last year changed to ISM University so as to better reflect this fact.

As of now there is no proposal out (yet), aimed at renaming ISM University to IIT Dhanbad.

As mentioned earlier Ism has great cultural heritage and awesome reputation in earth sciences field (petroleum, mining, mining machinery, geology).

Giving ISM a distinct identity at least in this sphere of industry. Because of these facts, till last year it was pretty unlikely for it to undergo another name change to IIT Dhanbad.

However, after the recent announcement of new IITs and proposal of converting IT-BHU to IIT Varanasi speculation and demands of IIT Dhanbad are back.

To avoid heartburns later, while making a decision kindly assume that you will upon graduation get a degree from ISM University not IIT - Dhanbad



3.HOW come we have not heard about ISM then??


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the fact is....PRIVATE COLLEGES LIKE BITS PILANI, VIT DO ENOUGH PUBLICITY VIA MEDIA ABOUT THEIR COLLEGE, IITS GET IT BY DEFAULT......
BUT ISM DOESNT GET MUCH INTO THIS PUBLICITY STUFF......
IT DIDN'T PARTICIPATE IN POLLS CONDUCTED BY MAGAZINES UNTIL 2006 WHEN IT PARTICIPATED IN OUTLOOK RANKINGS.........
IT CAME 12TH in 2006 AND 9TH in 2007...(more on that later...)



4.WHAT about ranking of ISM??
Though outlook has given you 9th rank....india today doesn't mention your name...??


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Top 10 Engineering Colleges

2007 2006
Rank Rank Institute
1 2 IIT Kharagpur
2 1 IIT Kanpur
3 3 IIT Bombay
4 5 IIT Delhi
5 4 IIT Madras
6 6 BITS Pilani
7 7 IIT Roorkee
8 8 IT BHU, Varanasi
9 - Indian School of Mines, Dhanbad
10 9 IIT Guwahati
Source : Outlook

http://www.indiaeducation.info/Engineering/top_colleges/index.asp




Top 25 Engineering Colleges 2007
Rank Institute
1 IIT Kanpur
2 IIT Delhi
3 IIT Madras
4 IIT Bombay
5 IIT Kharagpur
6 IIT Roorkee
7 IIT Guwahati
8 IIIT Allahabad
9 College of Engineering, Anna University, Chennai
10 National Institute of Technology, Trichy
11 Faculty of Engineering & Technology, Jadavpur University, Kolkata
12 Delhi College of Engineering, Delhi
13 National Institute of Technology, Warangal
14 Vellore Institute of Technology, Vellore
15 P.S.G. College of Technology, Coimbatore
16 International Institute of Information Technology, Hyderabad
17 Birla Institute of Technology, Mesra
18 Institute of Technology, Banaras Hindu University
19 Netaji Subhas Institute of Technology, Delhi
20 Visvesvaraya National Institute of Technology, Nagpur
21 M.S. Ramaiah Institute of Technology, Bangalore
22 Motilal Nehru National Institute of Technology, Allahabad
23 National Institute of Technology, Calicut
24 National Institute of Technology, Rourkela
25 Institute of Technology, Nirma University, Ahmedabad
Source : India Today

http://www.indiaeducation.info/Engineering/top_colleges/top25.asp



YOU CAN SEE here that ISM has been placed 9th by outlook but nowhere by India Today..
let me first clarify your doubts concerning INDIA TODAY...
u can see in these rankings that..
IIIT ALLAHABAD..is ranked at 8TH POSITION!!!!!!!!!!!!!(is dis a joke or something????)
even BIT MESRA and VIT have been ranked above nsit and even IT-BHU....thats a SHOCK!!!!!!!!!(IT-bhu is way better then IIT guwahati and ISM..)


so my only advice........pls DON’T TRUST INDIA TODAY RANKINGS!!!!!! ......i beg you for this....(if u don’t wanna make a wrong decision at this important juncture of your life!!!!)



5. placements in ISM??

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Placements in ISM ARE REALLY VERY GOOD!!
I
nfact, in PETROLEUM PLACEMENTS are EXCEPTIONAL...

outlook has ranked ism @ 5th position in terms of placements in 2007..

Top 10 Engineering Colleges
Based on the Salary (Lakhs / year)

Rank Name of Institute Maximum(Lakhs/yr) Average Salary(Lakhs/yr) Minimum(Lakhs/yr)

1 IIT Delhi 24.00 6.00 3.00
2 IIT Kharagpur 23.71 5.86 2.40
3 BITS Pilani 23.70 4.00 2.45
4 IIT Kanpur 23.00 6.00 3.00
5 Indian School of Mines 12.50** 4.50 1.80
6 Netaji Subhas Institute of Technology 12.00 5.28 2.50
7 PSG College of Technology 9.20 4.20 2.40
8 Dhirubhai Ambani Institute of Infocom. Tech. 9.10 2.60 2.00
9 BIT Mesra 9.10 3.46 2.36
10 Thapar Institute of Engineering 9.03 3.25 2.00
Source : Outlook

http://www.indiaeducation.info/Engineering/top_colleges/index.asp

**well let me add to this a fact brought forward by gaurav arora...

this year vikhyaat sir got a job of 44 lacs per annum in petroleum engineering.


This year ISMITES were recruited by....(dis isnt the whole list just a glimpse of the picture...contact for further details..)

BHP BILLITON
SCHLUMBERGER
SHELL

TATA STEEL
RIOTINTO
SANDVIK
MICROSOFT
SAMSUNG
IBM
AMDOCS
ACCENTURE
GLOBAL LOGIC
INFOSYS

WIPRO
TCS
HCL
NMDC
ORICA

ONGC
CAIRN ENERGY
RELIANCE

HINDALCO
FIITJEE
L&T
etc......

BHP billiton is the world's 2nd largest mining company and is recruiting only from ism in INDIA.

Rio tinto is an australian mining company which has started recruiting from INDIA in 2006 i.e. recruiting from ISM...(Maybe in some years it will start recruiting from IIT KHARAGPUR too..)





6.WHY don't companies like yahoo,google come to your campus???

What is the placement scenario of cse,elex??

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Well for this you must understand that dhanbad is not a metro..it will take some time for these companies to penetrate india and thus,recruit from ISM campus..
THEY presently dont come to ISM not bcoz ISM lacks good engineers but because of access and location factor..
We are hopeful that these companies will soon start recruiting the best engineers in the country ...by overcoming these initial hurdles..

In 2007,companies like amdocs, accenture, samsung, global logic came for the first time due to the removal of the rule...."software companies must be open to all"

Amdocs was so impressed by the performance of the students that..it raised its initial offer of 3.8 to 4.5 lpa after the interviews.

UPDATE:

As per the information that the student community has Microsoft will be visiting ISM University for sure in 2008.



7.How is the life in ISM dhanbad??


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Life is simply great in ISM....
dhanbad has all the amenities a guy needs...(except girls ofcourse....lolzz)

ISM campus life is AWESOME....i dont think i'll be able to describe it here in words.....you better come here and get a FEEL yourself..

We have great senior-junior relationship here in ISM.....(which is the secret of our strong alumni effect..)


Photographic society of ISM screens movies in our awesome lecture-hall complex....almost every weekend..


You won't even realize that you have become a passout.....such is the pace of time here!!!




8.WHAT is the extra-curricular scenario??

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ISM is full of these activities specially in the even semester(..i.e. the semester beginning in january!!)
There is hardly any time for serious studies.....once the festive mood sets in...

we have cultural events like..
1.BASANT reunion..
2.PRATIBIMB...inter-department(inter-branch) competition..
3.SRIJAN...our techno-management cum cultural fest
4.Mr. and Miss. fresher


sporting competitions like
1.CALCIO cup...soccer competition.
2.MUQABLA....THE DAY-NIGHT CRICKET TOURNAMENT...
3.Annual sports competition..

4.Athletica...Inter-technical college athletic competition


then we have various other organizations like..
1.GENESIS...which is our budding entrepreneurship cell...its basic aim is to induce entrepreneurship and encourage ISMites to establish their own businesses.

2.KARTAVYA...which is a voluntary organization striving to help the economically deprived section of our society...it runs schools, computer centers, etc....
it also maintains blood group database and hence help the society by providing volunteers for blood donation when the need arises

3.Mailer Daemon…which is our in-campus newsletter for the students by the students.

We also have many ROCK bands from our college called...
1.SALVATION
2.MANTHAN

3.IOTA

And many more.


Photographic society also holds a sort of FILM FESTIVAL every year......where students get a chance to explore a hidden director, actor, editor, lyricist or cameraman in themselves.....movies like...
1.BIRJU BHAI Btech.
2.AN ANECDOTE OF MY FRIEND

3.Crushed

4.Quest etc.
were a huge hit........... in ISM

ISM provides a platform for these and many such other CREATIVE activities..





9.WHAT about GRE or MBA??

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ISMITES are studying at various top universities of the world.....
but as far as GRE is concerned it matters a lot on the individual..and his caliber..
though ISM can provide YOU a good foundation....

recommendations by some of the professors of ISM can easily secure admission in most of the top universities..

about MBA...we have many success stories of ismites making to top b-schools...but again that depends a lot on the individual himself...

(...All b-schools aspire to have students of different profiles and thus being from ISM's earth sciences does provide you with some extra weight-age..)

moreover,
ISMites are placed at prestigious positions all over the world...(and being from ISM does help at such places...thanx to great junior-senior relationship).





HOPE YOU MAKE A GREAT AND SENSIBLE DECISION!!!


complied by
Mamtesh Sugla.







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VALUABLE CONTRIBUTIONS:

SUMAN BHATTACHARYA's

Computer Science and Engineering

(..This question as well as the following answer..)

Q.Isn't it akward "Doing C.S.E,Electronics,Electrical" from a mining college?

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No,Not at all.The Indian School Of Mines is not isolated in its capability of issuing degrees to non "earth science" disciplines inspite of the conspicuous presence of the term "MINES" . A stunning similarity is exhibited by The "École des Mines,Paris" or "The School Of MInes,Paris" which dvelves into Engineering and Humanities in addition to The Earth Sciences.For those of you unaware of the credentials of this institute.The École is one of France's most elite schools boasting of some spectacular alumni in the form of High level diplomats,politicians and Nobel Laureates in the spheres of Economics and Physics.It is quite evident that if the International Community has no problem whatsoever in associating itself with such an institute then there is absolutely no scope of your degree being a centre of ridicule.It's also worthwhile noting that The École was set up primarily to serve the Mining industry and It branched into a multi disciplinary institute very later in its history.Such a move was made keeping in mind the technological progress and transformations that have taken place in mordern day society a vision which was shared by I.S.M.U during its own transformation.


So,for all those fellows out there who are being guided by various baseless,illogical and naive arguments--Get up.Get a life.You and especially your friendly neighbourhood counsellor have much to learn before they can even call themselves capable of being able to comment about an institute such as I.S.M

NITESH YADAV SIR's take on this q.

(2007 passout,currently working in INFOSYS)

2002 was the yr wen d 1st batch of CSE n ELEX passed out frm ISM, this batch found it very difficult to get job, but once they got into software firms their hardwork showed the character of their alma-matar n now u can see the no. of software companies comin to ISM for recruitment..n all dis in jus 5 yrs time.

Next update shortly....
















for further details feel free to contact

Mamtesh Sugla
TROUBLE-SHOOTER

Mining Engineering
+91-9835310183

Click here for Orkut Profile
mamteshsugla@gmail.com


or

MANJUNATH.C
A PROUD ISMITE
Mechanical engineering

e-mail : cmanjunath316@gmail.com
contact : 9868908253/9430152342/0120-2650304

or


avinash dhanuka
Electrical Engineering
09239319651

or




abhinav gupta..

Environmental Engineering
abhi_coolstorm@yahoo.co.in
09897176053(haridwar i.e. my hometown)
09835921992(dhanbad)

or

GAURAV ARORA
ISMITES R DYNAMITES!!!!

Environmental Engineering
godfather.gaurav@gmail.com
09431914479,07442391459(resi)



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38 comments:

Unknown said...

Whats with this b,h,u better tha i.s.m thing.Get a life .Publicise dont criticise

Unknown said...

HI avinash out here.............


any enquires...contact 09239319651

for ISM

mamtesh said...

suman dude!!!
FACE D TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!

shoonya said...

gud job
go ahead
:)

shoonya

sumitnvrsaydie said...

gr8 job dudes....
keep goin strng nd v all r dere in full support...
keep up d hrd work....

Unknown said...

Define "TRUTH". Well written .Whens counsellin?

Unknown said...

Define "TRUTH".Well written.Whens counsellin?

Unknown said...

Sorry for the double scrap.Everythin here is in French so kindaf gettin confused

Anonymous said...

hiiiiiiin its dheeraj here
great work dude
ism being such a good place but lack lustre among students frternity due to lack of publicity
great step
my contact nois 9334552247
email id dheerajchhotu@gmail.com

Anonymous said...

great work dude
ism does need publicity and this is one of the ways
contact no-9334552247
email id-dheerajchhotu@gmail.com

mamtesh said...

@suman
truth is d odr name of fact
it bhu is a bttr insti den us nd no one shud deny dis fact...u can consider any field for comparison...

thnx fr ur comment...all of u..

Unknown said...

My friend,If You think that our Electronics /Mechanical/Electrical faculty is incompetent then you are strongly mistaken.Check their C.Vs out in case of any doubt.If they suck bigtime.They suck bigtime elsewhere too

Abhinav Gupta said...

gud job done mamtesh...ur efforts vll certainly turn out to be colorful....tis' gr8 to see such enthu in us....hope it remains like this always....

me abhinav gupta..
contact me at abhi_coolstorm@yahoo.co.in
or 09897176053(haridwar i.e. my hometown)
09835921992(dhanbad)

:)

mamtesh said...

buddy i'm not saying our faculty is bad.....infact its better than most of the institutes.....i m sayin just tht in some branches(except earth sciences) bhu has bttr faculty...

The Hobbler said...

First of all...kudos to mamtesh for takin dis gr8 step...such efforts rite after one yr of col life r worth appreciation.
Jus 1 thg to add-up here...
2002 was the yr wen d 1st batch of CSE n ELEX passed out frm ISM, this batch found it very difficult to get job, but once they got into s/w firms their hardwork showed the character of their alma-matar n now u can see the no. of s/w companies comin to ISM for recruitment..n all dis in jus 5 yrs time.

mamtesh said...

thnx for this info sir will include it soon

WTF! said...

well its an aesome job bro.....
but one thing i wud like to say SOMETHING MORE...
outlook says dat highest package of our coll dis year is 12.50 lacs/annum....wereas we all know dat its **44 lacs/annum** => petroleum engg. => VIKHYAAT SIR
hey dude just add it somewere near u've put in da ranklist 4 packages...afterall its da highest one even among all iits
thnx 4 cooperation...if done!!!

mamtesh said...

thnx yaar

actuallt i did think of it
bt den i thought ki isse te outlook bhi reliable source anhi lagega aur apna case hi weak ho jaega......isliye nahi kiya maine...
par kar deta hoon ab...

Varun Goyal said...

its awesome dudes.....gr8 going.

mamtesh said...

thnx

Ankur said...

are yarr mammi padke masti aa gayi,its a nice work yarr,but i liked
the india today:(........... and outlook:).........battle the most.its feel good after reading it....
well i think u should also incude the
interst of foreign companies such as
rio tinto in mining and mechanical streams

mamtesh said...

thnx yaar
kar loonga yaar yeh bhi add...

rAvi said...

PHODA HAI BHAI...!!!!

Anonymous said...

Sexy work guys...
Keep it up!!

mamtesh said...

thnx sir.....

Anonymous said...

The ISM Website can do with some improvement.
To begin with, it has to match ( or come close to) that of say IIT-Kanpur in terms of coverage & depth.
As of now if you click on Campus life at the ISM Website, it doesn't show up anything.
Also, the names of students are not there. My friends did write to various students of IIT-K to clarify their doubts, there was no such option in case of ISM.

Some of these shortcomings have been covered in this blog of yours.But PEEP...put everything in its place. These details also need to find their way into the ISM Website where it primarily belongs.
A great effort here. Keep up the good work.

mamtesh said...

thnx
and we r tryin to cope with tht website shortcoming
we have already strtd work on isms forum

ismuonline.co.nr


and soon its gonna include loads of stuff
wen ism reopens....

Unknown said...

satyajit said it.
Pls look after your official website. Few days ago, i was searching for some contact info and found most of the site full of dead links.

And ya! Since you specifically mentioned it, guess I can do it too. BITS Pilani also got a package of 44 Lakhs from SchlumB. And ya! BITS doesnt publicise itself. So, before you start pointing at BITS, please get this that being a privately funded institute, which has nominal tuition fees (with hostel fees as low as 500 per sem), BITS is not what you guys make it out to be.
Its the govt. institutes that are high on funds.
As for google n all, Well they visit NIT Silchar, so the point of being difficult to access is all crap.

http://pandeyvineet.blogspot.com

Nair said...

Friends,

I read the heated exchanges between the terminator and the forum administrator and others in NSIT students forum. The NSIT forum did indeed try to tarnish the reputation of ISMU; and therefore, you have done a good job to start a forum of your own, to allay any misapprehension or misunderstanding about your Institute. Definitely, this will go a long way by way of helping the new IIT-JEE qualfiers in choosing a good institute like yours. Keep it up.

However, you may avoid the following:

1. Slang expressions may be avoided. Because such expressions do not show a website like yours in a better light. Everything has its own place. Slangs do not have a place here. Write formal English when you introduce your institute. But you can use sms or slang expressions among your own exchanges in other topics.

2. Language used in anwwering FAQs or introducing your University etc. should be tempered with extreme politeness. No harsh words to be used therein. The tenor should be gentle, Because, if you are not gentle with your words, the readers may be led to think you are propping up a suspect case. Please be aware of the general psychology of the readers.

Thanks. Good luck.

Nair

Manj said...

well we take vineet's suggestion, and we do agree that our website needs reforms.And i don't take back my words on BITS pilani.

what has the nominal hostel fees got to do with the publicity??

publicity refers to the amount of attention the college achieves/hires from the media be it newspapers or the TV.If you insist i can provide you with the details of the occuring half-a-page ADs of the institute in the leading newspapers.

and @ Mr. Nair

i was the TERMINATOR in the forum who started the whole row.And i suppose that i have made a decent enough effort to defend the criticism against me and my college in a polite way if you see carefully.

and yes we will try our best to review the format and try to present the whole thing in a proper format.

people can check out

ismudhanbad.blogspot.com

for formal english version if you insist.

and yes,thanx a lot for your valuable suggestions.we expect more of the same from all the readers.

mamtesh said...

thnx for your valuable insights
@vineet
dude i seriously m nt able to make d connection b/w hostel fees and publicity

@Nair
thnx for your valuable insights
we are working on your suggestions
bt u must realise tht being a little aggressive helps!!
actually u have to shout a bit wen the whole world is shouting against you!!
thnx once again fr your suggestions

mamtesh said...

@vineet
in my last comment i forgot to ans a few of your doubts
1.govt institutes =>high on funds
THTs the best joke i've heard dude!!

2.schlum 44 lac package to bits
good!!congrats!!

3.NIT silchar
dude plz do chk out wen cse and elex strtd in tht collg and den compare tht wid ism

location is nt d only factor its 1 of d factor
others are
2.relatively new branches
3.ism's policy till last year was tht it was compulsory fr software companies to be "open to all"
and companies like google,microsoft dont have tht much time to interview 1000 students wen only 3-4 are worth it.

Prateek said...

seriously good work done man......atleast u guys took d initiative...

BUT LET ME SAY SOMETHING

WOW..MAN I DIDNT KNOW I WAS STUDYING IN SUCH A GR8 INSTI N SUCH A FAB PLACE 2 LIVE IN....DHANBAD...EVEN AFTER BEING HERE FOR TWO YRS NW....[NO PUN INTENDED]......n to cut it short let me ask u a ques...
DID U COME HERE OF CHOICE OR COMPULSION////.........

[LET ME CLEAR DAT.... ITS GOOD DAT U R DOING IT FOR D GOOD OF COLLG...N BEING D MEMBERS OF D COLLG COMMUNITY ITS OUR DUTY ALSO 2 PROJECT ITS GOODWILL ...BUT COME ON DONT ONLY DISCUSS D PROS...BUT ALSO D CONS....ELSE DERE WLD B A HELL LOT OF GUYS COMING YR AFTR YR HERE WHO WLD WANNA KICK UR --S.....]

mamtesh said...

hi patty,

thanx for bringing out the fact.
We are sure ignoring the cons over here.
But thats because we are here to put forward the PROS, cons are well "Obvious" to figure out and well discussed on any forum.

Just for the record let me highlight the cons as well

1.Its in dhanbad,jharkhand

(it is surely not manhattan but a pretty decent place to live, better then many other institutes.)

2.You will be in ISM not IIT.

3.The research infrastructure is not the best in the country in branches like cse,elex
(but then its less than only IISc and Some IITs and NITs which you would have anyways preferred if you had an option.)

To patty :
man ism wud be equivalent to mit if ppl started deciding about such an important issue just by reading a BLOG.

this blog is just to portray the other side of coin.
Just to put the PROS side forward too.

COZ, WE SURELY DO HAVE SOME PROS WHICH NO ONE ACTUALLY SPEAKS ABOUT.

Unknown said...

good job mamtesh...
well i think rather popularising only petroleum branch...you should give placement detail of all branch...mining, geophysics, CSC, elex, min mec, mech....and if possible mention d avg placement nd top placement from these deppts..
I hope it may help in making ISMU a lucarative platform for smart ones...

aditya said...

i heard that m.tech is not good in ism?????????
especially for electronics & communications ????????

Unknown said...

Nice I could clear so many doubts, arising in my mind before joining....A Big Thanks to all of you...
Chandra Prakash Kashyap
Going to join ISM as JRF :)

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